tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post4752700596546776357..comments2023-12-12T08:22:49.015-07:00Comments on navel gazing at its finest: Why I Think Twilight Sucks, and Other Important ThoughtsTheOneTrueSuehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756132396031048647noreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-90085252254960238382008-07-10T15:08:00.001-06:002008-07-10T15:08:00.001-06:00Sue, don't apologize. It's your blog, you can say ...Sue, don't apologize. It's your blog, you can say whatever you want, and it was fairly clear to most of us that you weren't ripping on Aspergers.<BR/><BR/>Now, if you were ripping on Harry Potter characters, I'd have to get all up in your business. As it is, I was really excited to see in one of your earlier comments that you're an HP fan. Brilliantly written is right!Fighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222439237737873231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-76995289813561947352008-07-10T15:08:00.000-06:002008-07-10T15:08:00.000-06:00I'm closing comments guys. Thanks for playing.I'm closing comments guys. Thanks for playing.TheOneTrueSuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756132396031048647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-16625318222252352722008-07-10T15:05:00.000-06:002008-07-10T15:05:00.000-06:00Wow, Rachel! Them's fightin' words!Sue, best post ...Wow, Rachel! <BR/><BR/>Them's fightin' words!<BR/><BR/>Sue, best post by far! Well, except for the ones that make me laugh so hard I pee a little. <BR/><BR/>Seriously though, if these are "young adult" novels why are the only people I hear talking about them 35+?Shan @ Design Galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14903881848964533208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-72469388172922595992008-07-10T15:03:00.000-06:002008-07-10T15:03:00.000-06:00Mea culpa. Obviously, I know relatively nothing a...Mea culpa. Obviously, I know relatively nothing about Aspergers. Most of what I know comes from a friend who has a son who is very high functioning, but constantly walking into trouble because he has a situationally inappropriate sense of what is dangerous. He thinks he's made of iron, basically. And he has a hard time interpreting emotions. Those two things seemed to very much match Bella. <BR/><BR/>So my point in saying she seemed like she had Aspergers was to say that she wasn't a character who had normal responses to emotion and danger. <BR/><BR/>Also, just to be clear, I absolutely was not saying that people with Aspergers are annoying or dumb or stupid. I was saying I thought she might have had Aspergers AND she was annoying and dumb. <BR/><BR/>You know what? Never mind. I take it back. <BR/><BR/>I'm gonna go lie down now and ponder new and exciting ways to put my foot in my mouth.TheOneTrueSuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756132396031048647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-28213466078877362222008-07-10T14:42:00.000-06:002008-07-10T14:42:00.000-06:00That's IT, I'm on my way over with a flaming bag o...That's IT, I'm on my way over with a flaming bag of poop for your doorstep.tricki_nickihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09498830892805025194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-58833338673159862782008-07-10T14:41:00.000-06:002008-07-10T14:41:00.000-06:00I'm embarassed to admit that I actually liked the ...I'm embarassed to admit that I actually liked the books - all three of them and I'll probably read the 4th one as well. <BR/><BR/>Why? I don't really know. I just liked them. I think one thing I liked was that Edward and his brothers were so protective of her. Jacob too. I like that in a man, probably because I never managed to attract that in a man - mine tend to be the "sink or swim" variety. <BR/><BR/>That's why I like that movie Chain Reaction - Keanu Reeves is very protective of the girl in it (can't think of her name). I also liked that there could be cuddling without sex - how often does that happen any more, particularly in books? <BR/><BR/>PS: Why is this a Relief Society thing? Is there some kind of Mormon connection in the book that I missed?AdriansCrazyLifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463022076036044242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-19343228252320259242008-07-10T14:37:00.000-06:002008-07-10T14:37:00.000-06:00Yeah. Grumble. Everything you said - just exactl...Yeah. Grumble. Everything you said - just exactly the way you said it.<BR/><BR/>Oh, wow! I just read some of the comments - and you're LDS!! I KNEW you were. HA!! And what makes me the maddest is that the significant fact about the author, that she's LDS makes the thing so TERRIBLY ironic.Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02040714440875408436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-43409263801101369712008-07-10T14:25:00.000-06:002008-07-10T14:25:00.000-06:00Oh... and as far as the "danger" portion relates t...Oh... and as far as the "danger" portion relates to AS... it's not that an Aspie does not appreciate danger or dangerous situations once they understand them... it's simply that an Aspie may not be able to pick up danger cues (again social cues) as immediately as a NN (Neurological Normal) would be able to.bonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01844859687652489596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-20224812559261912262008-07-10T14:20:00.000-06:002008-07-10T14:20:00.000-06:00I have to agree that you are off as far as Asperge...I have to agree that you are off as far as Aspergers goes... my mom is a high functioning Aspie, (which Bella would have to be to go undiagnosed for so long)and while I know that the Syndrome manifests in MANY different ways for MANY people...<BR/><BR/>nope.<BR/><BR/>But I will have to agree with you that there is something "non-neurologically-normal" about the girl. She lacks a "danger-danger-this-ain't-cool" button that most humans have... possibly one of two points that could be figured into an Aspergers diagnosis. The other point being her difficulty in telling when a guy is totally grooving (inability to read social cues)on her... example: Tyler, Jacob Black etc... But you need more than two simple points to call an Aspie. <BR/><BR/>And speaking of Jacob Black... gosh! You haven't gotten to the REALLY annoying portions of the saga yet!<BR/><BR/>All that said... I loved! loved! loved! Twilight!bonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01844859687652489596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-15240180961618565742008-07-10T14:19:00.000-06:002008-07-10T14:19:00.000-06:00have not read it. not interested in reading it. th...have not read it. not interested in reading it. that's all. the end.Caroline C. Binghamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08883064932707416161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-2924145354200147932008-07-10T14:17:00.000-06:002008-07-10T14:17:00.000-06:00I enjoyed them. I didn't LOVE them, but I enjoyed...I enjoyed them. I didn't LOVE them, but I enjoyed them. I think the reason is because they made me feel like I was fifteen again, only this time I could be clumsy and stupid and still have the hot guy lust after me. But then again, I ENJOYED being fifteen, so revisiting it wasn't bad for me. I agree with Bek's comment. <BR/><BR/>(It's kind of like reading Pippi, did you ever read those books? How COOL! No parents! What a life! And then you read the books as an adult, and are like "WILL SOMEONE GET SOCIAL SERVICES OVER TO THAT HOUSE STAT!!!!")<BR/><BR/>I do have issues, however, with the sleeping in the same bed every night and the cluelessness of both parents. Not just her father, her mother was practically a toddler who could be distracted with a cookie.The Wizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18200774436938621900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-38034344650169252022008-07-10T13:45:00.000-06:002008-07-10T13:45:00.000-06:00Umm...I have Aspergers, as does my oldest son...I ...Umm...I have Aspergers, as does my oldest son...I totally don't see it, but ok.JustMehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04381560436635752790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-36011590846640166122008-07-10T13:42:00.000-06:002008-07-10T13:42:00.000-06:00I've read all three books. I like them in a brain ...I've read all three books. I like them in a brain candy, relive teenage stupidity kind of way. I did not find bella to be inherently stupid, but rather saw her as an unhappy girl who finds herself getting attention and an extreme reaction from an extraordinary person for the first time. I think her response to Edward, while not "smart," is realistic and compelling. Come on, you never had a fatal attraction?<BR/><BR/>I also didn't find edward to be stilted and boring. Maybe to like these books, you had to be the girl that i was in high school--the Sylvia Plath reading, black wearing, jock-and-cheerleader hating emo girl. I would have eaten Edward up with a spoon. Although I do love me some Jacob Black, now.Sweet Sassy Molassyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07955536215422459315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-61174300194949502362008-07-10T13:40:00.000-06:002008-07-10T13:40:00.000-06:00Hm. I see what you're geting at with the Aspeger'...Hm. I see what you're geting at with the Aspeger's, but I don't think it totally fits. Instead, I'd have to go with the earlier inner-ear disorder theory. Oh, and the extreme stupidity theory.<BR/><BR/>I thought you'd get a kick out of this, the second response in particular: http://theboard.byu.edu/?area=viewall&id=44374Abbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11024012133951388516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-65686184978848929472008-07-10T13:14:00.000-06:002008-07-10T13:14:00.000-06:00I'm not kidding about the Aspergers. I really thi...I'm not kidding about the Aspergers. I really think Bella acts like someone who has it. It wasn't a joke.<BR/><BR/>Are we so politically correct now that we can't even use the names of illnesses to describe people who exhibit the symptoms?TheOneTrueSuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756132396031048647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-55129147666564877752008-07-10T13:06:00.000-06:002008-07-10T13:06:00.000-06:00I just want to slap Bella! She has to be the most...I just want to slap Bella! She has to be the most boring character in the history of literature! I too read all 3 books and Host...total OCD issues.<BR/><BR/>Host sucked! The ending was a real let down...then after 2 blank pages the story continued...WTH! Here's my ending, but oh wait incase you didn't like it (Or think that it total sucks!) here's a TOTALLY different ending for you. If you're going to go for the sad ending atleast have the cahones to stand by it, NOT totally rewrite ANOTHER ending. (Not that I am upset about, not at all, but darn it that is 10 hours of my life that I will never get back)<BR/><BR/>By the way, your Aspergers comment not so cool.JustMehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04381560436635752790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-80517244850704833432008-07-10T12:47:00.000-06:002008-07-10T12:47:00.000-06:00I haven't even heard of the book...and in case I e...I haven't even heard of the book...and in case I ever come across it and get the urge to read it...I thank you for saving me the $10.Mama Smurfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18156035813578322910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-11776074714414720122008-07-10T12:36:00.000-06:002008-07-10T12:36:00.000-06:00I SO AGREE with you one every point you made about...I SO AGREE with you one every point you made about Twilight. I thought maybe it was because of my age (53), but nice to know that younger folks think it sucks, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-85267523685259455992008-07-10T12:05:00.000-06:002008-07-10T12:05:00.000-06:00I didn't hate the books, but I did feel like that ...I didn't hate the books, but I did feel like that I might like them more if I was 15. The decisions she made about her boyfriend, etc, etc were the kind of things that parents read and go "YIKES! Are you NUTS?" but teenagers read and go "wow, that is so brave and cool." KWIM? The tiny part of me that remembers what it is like to be 15 could relate..but they were kind of boring.... <BR/><BR/>Then again, I ever even saw Titanic because everyone was talking about it.... <BR/><BR/>WELCOME HOME! Is it wonderful to be back to your HOME? I doubt people think you are a flake. Wouldn't we all love to live where we love?Bekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02421106490759593190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-16068340557481268362008-07-10T11:58:00.000-06:002008-07-10T11:58:00.000-06:00I found my group!!!I've read all three....and hone...I found my group!!!<BR/><BR/>I've read all three....and honestly have not decided if I'll read the next one (I'm sort of a series addict...and not reading a book in a series I started...even if I don't like it is difficult...puzzle that one out)<BR/><BR/>BUT for the most part I didn't get Bella either. She was just kinda blah...like we were suppose to think her layered or some such. <BR/><BR/>I kept waiting for something more to happen...like her Dad was really the head of a secret den of vampires here to over throw Edward and crew and Bella actually had powers that were way stronger then the holier then thou Edward. Cause he I really did NOT like. He just bugged me. A lot.<BR/><BR/>But nope. nothing happened. For a good chunk of the book(s). Nothing happened accept Edward didn't kill her.<BR/><BR/>dang.Kathy's Kornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10736616768905799131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-89615239529699814112008-07-10T11:56:00.000-06:002008-07-10T11:56:00.000-06:00Not only haven't I read it, I've never heard of it...Not only haven't I read it, I've never heard of it.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for saving me some time. In case, y'know, I ended up hearing about it. Sometime. Maybe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-84892760995399379892008-07-10T11:53:00.000-06:002008-07-10T11:53:00.000-06:00WHAT?!! You voted for SC?!!!! That's it woman, I...WHAT?!! You voted for SC?!!!! That's it woman, I'm voting you OFF THE ISLAND.<BR/><BR/>boo hooTheOneTrueSuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756132396031048647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-34917077785631655792008-07-10T11:44:00.000-06:002008-07-10T11:44:00.000-06:00Oh yeah and I totally voted for SC - twice. Not b...Oh yeah and I totally voted for SC - twice. Not because of the Twilight thing (really, I think your critique was well done) but well, she whined first and long and loud and I'm a sucker for that (ask my 4yo).Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17254208744417742746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-88816524933263432502008-07-10T11:38:00.000-06:002008-07-10T11:38:00.000-06:00Thanks for the spoiler warning...I'm not reading t...Thanks for the spoiler warning...I'm not reading this post, because I am planning to read the books. I'll try to remember to come back later and read it.Jainahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05666481569069955190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18394742.post-88093222236861971512008-07-10T11:33:00.001-06:002008-07-10T11:33:00.001-06:00It's been awhile but yeah I liked it although I sh...It's been awhile but yeah I liked it although I share some of your criticisms, particularly the "Edward had topaz eyes and a muscled chest," because, yeah, I didn't think she'd shut up about how beautiful he was. And the cold stone thing bothered me to0 - half the fun of cuddling with DH is that I get WARM not freeze my tush off!<BR/><BR/>But, I bought all three and will be standing in line for book 4. I'm addicted. I really do think it's the whole vampire thing. I have a secret love for them. And yes, I do have a bad boy complex. DH is a reformed (sometimes not so much reformed) bad boy and he super fabulous.Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17254208744417742746noreply@blogger.com